I was surprised by the level of detail and the amount of information that was available. The Ruger is HD, the Kimber camping and trail. I think either 357 or 30-30 is a great utility rifle. I have a Henry Big Boy Steel .357 leaning in the corner right now, ready to use if need be. Don't quit reading, just try shooting the latest Taurus out. I own a Taurus model 608 stainless 8 Shot .357 magnum 4 inch barrel. Thanks for reading! Click below for a FREE LESSON! The GP-100, Redhawk, and SP-101 would later follow. 8. #1. Thanks! Proven. SKU: 150339. Always has been. I know we all have our answers to this. I couldnt measure their velocity from the revolver, because theyre so smoky and sooty that the flying particles gave false readings from the chronograph. I had a GP-100 and loved it. If you don't own one, you should. Thanks for the rec, Colin! Our .357 Magnum pistol: a 1980s Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 4 barrel. The SP-101 isa 5-shot DA/SA .357 Magnum available in stainless steel or blued finishes. Chiappa Rhino should be on this list. Considering the diverse ammunition loads available, it is easy to find one that works for you. You left out the best .357 revolver on the market. Hands Down the best .357 Magnum Revolver is the Colt Python. The titanium frame and cylinder make it comfortable to carry, I like the 7 shot capacity, and the ported barrel does help with muzzle flip. Recoil is extremely mild even with the stoutest loads, so that the XS ghost ring sights never even leave the target; you just keep working the lever and blazing away until you run out of ammo (not likely) or until your tin can bounces away out of sight. -The recoil of the 45 Colt is much less than that of the .357 Magnum, making it more comfortable to . Despite the fact that some people dont like Taurus guns, I still like my Taurus 617Ti. any review giving is a matter of opinion of the person giving it. I think the GP 100 is a better all-around gun. I shoot .38 +P ammo for practice. 357 Mag Vs 30-06 .30-06 is a very antique round. I have the Ruger New model Blackhawk convertible in a 357 magnum, 6.50 in barrel. Chart of .357 ballistics This revolver is ultra-durable and is a relatively soft shooter while maintaining a reasonable level of affordability. The gun features a fully adjustable rear sight, match trigger, and is completely hand-fitted to exacting tolerances. While both rounds work well for self-defense, the 357 Magnum kicks ass in the realm of hunting. It's double action trigger pull is quite heavy and less, but not poorly accurate (I always shoot single action although I practice a DA double-tap although even if I had to execute one I train doing it in SA anyway. It may be pretty weak sauce compared to more modern, high-velocity rounds, but it still gets the job done for most game at reasonable ranges. Peter, How do I get a catalog with the 357 handguns. But the companys first .357 Magnum revolvers wouldnt show up until 1934. I own the .357 with a 4.2" barrel and its very nice. for a front blade sight and fixed rear sight. I read this article back in 2011 & its just as good now, Yep, same. loads. Printing is a challenge. Whats next? And Ive had a levergun in .357 mag on my wish list ever since its jumped to the top now that Ive actually got a revolver to pair with one. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. With 38's it's like shooting a 22. I have sold my others over the years,, many of which I would love to have kept so Ive decided to get ones I want and I dont want to sell. Can you recommend me the best bullets to choose for precision. Excellent price too. You will be horrified. No one can argue that the Colt Python, an out-of-production .357 revolver, has to be on any list of "best" .357s, but if you open the list to guns that no longer are in production, you have to abide by that decision. I regularly carry my Windicator when in situations where deep concealment isn't a necessity (OWB under winter clothing will be fine; it'll stick out a bit in light clothing; IWB appendix carry is possible and the most concealed position available. And I like that some loads, like Buffalo Bore 180 grain equals or surpasses standard.30-30 loads under 200 or so yards. Trigger was good out of the box, after about 5,000 rounds it was outstanding! Thanks for the article. I lust for lever but I have so many other guns ahead of it! However, theres the Marlin 336 and the Savage 99. 06-30-2009 @ 12:56 AM Location Houston Texas Posts 189 Local Date 01-15-2023 Local Time 05:16 AM.30 Carbine vs .357 Magnum There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. are many fine cartridges out there but, I'm still A .30-06 pushing the same bullet would produce closer to 3,000 ft-lbs. Never liked lever guns. Compared to the .357, the .44 was loaded to a higher pressure, which increased its velocity. 160-grain Hornady Leverevolution: 2132 fps, 1615 lb-ft. 170-grain Remington JSP: 1986 fps, 1489 lb-ft. The S&W 627 Prois an 8-shot .357 Magnum DA/SA. If the ball collides with them, slope io game is over. Smith and Wesson 629-6, 4 inch barrel and a Winchester 1892 with a 20 inch barrel. have the s&w 627 with the 2.635 inch looking at getting the 327 trr8 or the r8 in the 5inch i think it is mot sure yet and u should change the taurus to the 608 from the 66ss same size just 8 shots. Powerful. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. Then you are obligated to consider all the magnum revolvers in and out of production. I've never actually seen one!! I have to admit though, that a 2.5" barrel is a bit silly. A lot of the discussion here deals with trying to fit a CCW profile with the 357 even though the caliber has many first tier uses. My mild 158-grain lead SWC handloads produced 1176 fps and 485 lb-ft from the carbine, which was better than Id expected since they only burn a small charge of Unique, a fast-burning pistol powder. You might want to check it out for future reviews and lists. At 200 yards, the 30-30 bullet's energy has dropped to about 1,000 ft-lbs. I purchased a new Kimber K6s and a new S&W 640 Pro last month. Model 627 Pro in .357 Magnum. I like mine a lot. Uh, couple more you left out, Charter Arms, Chiappa, Wesson Arms, etc. The action is super smooth. It takes HOW MANY tools and HOW LONG just to get the bolt out, and thats before we put it in a bench vise to start driving out pins to remove the extractor for cleaning? Maybe Im just spoiled by more modern designs. In fact I ordered 2 S&W 640 Pro series revolvers but did not take possession of one of them because it kept locking/jamming up while cycling PLUS the cylinder HAD TO BE FORCED OPEN! n-110 has a burn rate on the chart similar to h110 or lilgun which is about as slow as you can go in the caliber. Where the two separate. I will no longer be reading any of your articles. In my opinion the .30 carbine is hotter than the .357 with the lighter-faster bullet. I won! Fast forward to today and it's a 627 8 rndr with moon clips. The .30-30s biggest drawback: its a shorter-range cartridge, due to the flat-point bullets that must be used in a tubular magazine. Sorry, Ted, but you might "bez" mistaken. 350 Legend cartridge is 2.25" in overall length, which is very similar to the size of 300 blackout ammo and has a case capacity of 36.5gr. The .38 Special case has plenty of volume. Slightly less recoil and significantly greater savings gives this round to the .25-06 Remington. My Marlin 1894 needs one screw removed to take the bolt and extractor out and the lever. They are very sturdy guns, on the heavy side, which I like (I'd say "have a nice weight to them,") good (albeit very basic, and fixed) sights.I find myself just as if not more accurate with my aptly-named Windicator than any gun of it's size, and more than any standard polymer 9mm/.40cal. I have two of your choices: S&W model 60 with 2.25 If money isn't an object, this is the best. Ive had a S&W Mod.19 for roughly 35yrs. All in all, apart from the inherently higher quality that you get with S&W and Ruger, the Windy is pretty much equal to any gun on this list when it comes down to all practical purposes and I'm quite fond of it. As far as the 'exiting bullets', that must refer to .357 handgun bullets, which would in fact be designed for velocities . I own S&w revolver, model 586-3 and i Shoot on competitions. The .357 Magnum basically doubles its kinetic energy when its fired from a carbine, and it almost earns a promotion to the Big Leagues of rifle ballistics. Even for self defense Id stick with 158s in a .357 rifle. The only thing that I regret in hindsight is 35 years ago having a custom trigger and hammer job done on the Mod. Penetration: 18.1 These happen to be some of our favorites. While the 16 Trapper is very handy, consider an 18 barrel which will give you an extra round of magazine capacity and a small ballistic increase. 2. I read your blog its really informative for me I also share this article with my friends keep it upheart touching poetry in Urduthanks for sharing. The recoil is very mild. Hollow point ammunition works only in a narrow velocity range. Jack. It is a bit heavy in weight but, with an excellent OWB holster, it can be carried concealed. Over the years I have owned most of the 357 Mag Revolvers you listed and since I reload I have put a lot of lead through them. I have the 3" barrel and the DASA model. Its an 8 AR-type pistol and LOTS of fun until you have to clean it. After about 8 theres nothing left to gain from any longer barrel in 9mm. One of Colts most famous revolvers is the 1873 Colt Single Action Army in the Colt .45 caliber. So work of art for a operating gun not a collector that sits and never ever will it get packed ! All are fantastic revolvers that are fun to shoot and can handle anything you put through them. Man did you guys blow it! I'm interested in purchasing a long barreled lever action rifle in either .357 Mag. Practice with light .357 Magnum ammunition to simulate heavier loads. and then theres the marlin .444. Get Our Top Shooting Drills and Zeroing Targets ($47 value - but FREE for a limited time). According to Frank Barnes' "Cartridges of the World," the .357 case was made 1/8 inch longer in order to keep it from being chambered in .38 Special cylinders that were not strong enough to handle the much higher case pressure of the .357. I have a python also bought 30 years ago at about 650.00 ( also bought a security six for about 1/3 of that if I remember right). 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 . Check out the new online S&W catalog. Have had a stainless 4" barrel Ruger GP 100 down here in Australia (50 yard range use, no Concealed Carry Permit possible here), for about five years, and can attest to the solid build and reliability of the gun. For the most part, handgun calibers are either 9, 10, 11, or 12mm. Specifically, the 7mm Rem Mag has about 2-4% more muzzle energy than the .30-06 with these three particular loads. Source. One caveat: my .357 carbine is nicely accurate, but the point of impact varies greatly depending on the ammunition being fired. The one thing that I did notice was about 99% of the competitors used S&W revolvers, could be how easily it was to make a very nice trigger pull or because of the way the cylinder was unlocked for faster reloads. . Developed for use by French police and Special Weapons and Tactics units and fielded by the French GIGN, the accuracy and durability of this revolver are legendary. I prefer to use 150gr over the 170gr. .357 mag. That was way back in '89. So many choices! "Since more of the bullets mass is outside the cartridge, there is more room for powder in the cartridge." (Both were FMJ rounds from Tula Ammo.) There was (and is) PLENTY of volume in the 38 special case since the 38 spl was originally a black powder cartridge and the .357 was developed using denser smokeless powder. Learn all the important stuff about handgunswith none of the attitude. I have a mid eighties Dan Wesson 357 mag 6 inch barrel ventilated rib (model is 13 V). .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Might need to get rid of it because of hand issues. I think you forgot about Taurus just like a publication like this the only put up the front most popular names. The racetrack is full of obstacles like the red cube. And am in love with it. That was the only issue I've ever had. Not laughingsaw a trick shot guy using a Rossi as this main gun. After 35 years this one is still my favorite. I also have a PC 642 for EDC, but would recommend the LCR with fiber or tritium from sight as a better alternative, due to improved second shot recovery. I was in my twenties and knew nothing. Nothing else came close. Generally I never shoot the gun in DA, as a matter personal preference and much better accuracy. I believe dan wesson should be on the list as well they had an innovative design of being able to swap barrels. You want J frame size 6 shots get a Kimber K6S they are excellent out of the box, You didnt even mention the model 19? It is far too heavy to carry hiking, camping or fishing. Your 92 model. My favorite is a Colt Trooper Mk III - 6" that I've had since 1968. I read this article back in 2011 as a mostly uninformed firearms novice and new owner of a Marlin .30-30, and learned quite a bit from it. You can swap them in a matter of seconds. And the Ruger GP100 7-shot with 4 barrel. Re: 357 vs 44 mag vs 44-40 popularity in lever guns. The extra length prevents the revolvers cylinder from closing and locking into place. Its ballistics are inferior to the .30 Carbine..357 Magnum - This is a revolver cartridge adequate for shooting deer to about 50 yards. The carbine got 2038 fps (!) According to the S&W web site, "Today's K-Frame is available in .22 LR, .357 Magnum and .38 S&W Special." As I said before I find it very, very accurate despite having fixed and rather primitive sights. 25m range. Came with two 7 chamber cylinders. It was popular with the public and used in the U.S. military from 1873 to 1892. I love them. If youre looking for a high-quality concealed-carry revolverthis is it. And thats with standard ammo. Mark also said that many lawman carried a .45 revolver and a rifle caliber Winchester lever gun. There are a ton of revolver models floating around the market, and most are solid. Did anyone mention the ugly one"Chiappa Rhino? Lever-Action Ballistics Comparison: .30-30 vs .357 Magnum, Levi Strauss Blames Lawful Gun Owners for Gun Violence in Communities of Color, SIG SAUER Announces the New KILO8K-ABS Rangefinder and KILO10K-ABA HD Rangefinding Binoculars, One Season Hunting with the SIG SAUER Cross Hunting Rifle, SHOT Show Range Day: JR-15 Miniatured, 22LR AR-15 for the Kiddos, Black Collar Arms Desperado System Turns Guitar Straps Into Rifle Slings. Check out wide collections of casual sneakers for men online on monkstory. The best current production available, especially the 5 inch 686 performance 7 shot revolver. The DA trigger pull was silky smooth. All you have to do is to keep the ball steady and avoid sudden movements. An old Speer reloading handbook interpolates them at about 980 fps from a pistol, which would give the carbine about a 20 percent velocity gain and a 44 percent energy gain. Our .357 Magnum pistol: a 1980s Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 4 barrel. Both shoot very well. 3. It only gives you the right to possess and use guns for defensive purposes. Ive owned a Ruger GP-100 since the late 80s-first handgun I ever purchased and 100% agree with your points on the gun and versatile ammo options in general. N-Frame. Right there with you Haz! Both great guns but Ruger holds the edge. The grips, barrel length, weight, and good DA/SA trigger make this revolver very balanced and pleasant to shoot without being unwieldy. You were close with the Mod. Certainly some classic model revolvers mentioned. The .357 Magnum Winchester PDX1 Defender JHP with 125-grain bullets costs $1.25 per round, while the same product ( 125 grain JHP) for .357 SIG cost $1.10 per round. no gun is a must as its all in the opinion of the person who makes the liks. In modern military terms it would be considered an intermediate-caliber round, packing about the same punch as the 7.6239. anything extra and your It is hardy and I expect its useful life to outlive mine if cared for but as far as that goes it does need thorough cleaning after a range session especially (again) around the ejector wall, grime can build up there and cause ejection problems (this contributed also to the more lasting problem I mentioned I believe). Perhaps the biggest difference between the .308 and .30-06 is their literal size. The .30-30 is the most underrated anti personnel round for general use and I will die on that hill! 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