That's how you build up the trust. Those were trigger happy war criminals, so its kinda fitting innit? Well, I used to talk about standing back and being the tactical genius. Yeah, I wondered about that because it's got to happen at some point. Diy Patches. PRIVACY POLICY. 339 votes, 54 comments. Business, history, science, how to write or take better photos, thousands of lectures here, watch or listen anytime using The Great Courses Plus App. What happens if somebody loses a radio? I was there during that time in the Army. Willink explains that there is a breaking point, however. So every characteristic that you can have for leader can be taken to an extreme, even the most important characteristic that I talk about all the time, which is humility. If they take a small action and the outcome is bad, which will happen because that's how we learn, we learn by making mistakes. You learn alot about him. Jordan Harbinger: [01:12:16] Yeah. And so then we have paintball or whatever, we'd walk up and said, in that case it was like, Hey, Beowulf, you're dead, lay down. And then what happens is no one's making the decisions, no one's making the calls, and everything just turns to total chaos and everyone gets murdered, again, it's training. The right of access: Well provide you with the data we have about you. Now, back to our show with Jocko Willink. And so each chapter is kind of a standalone, and it's similar to Extreme Ownership in that it has, like it starts off with bullets or something like that, generally combat, and then, or simulated combat and then a business principle and then a business story that goes into it. Oh, like discovered. Jason DeFillippo: [00:20:49] Thanks for listening and supporting the show. Vintage rereleases, Wrangler has something for everyone. Jordan Harbinger: [00:24:53] Yeah, we'll pump it out. Jocko Willink: [00:13:09] Yeah, the example that I used on my podcast the other day of this is, and it's a great example to use is the weather. Should you take extreme ownership and should you be fully responsible of everything in your world to the utmost of your ability? And then finally in the end, we were actually getting close to where we might've had to push back the release date, which is a problem. But what happens if I take that to the extreme and now I start getting into the weeds with what they're doing and I start stepping on the toes and I start interfering with what they're actually trying to get done. But you know what? Jordan Harbinger: [00:43:28] Oh so, it's all digital and they're like, All right, radio number 27 is off then.. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 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We don't really know how close everyone really is and that stuff is terrifying, and that seems like an emotional kind of an emotional skill set that you have to have where you don't just freak out the second you see somebody that close to you with an AK 47 right in your face at that point. And he was new to town and it was just like a terrible combination. You want to push them so hard that they feel massive amounts of stress, but at the same time you can break them, you can break them, and where they're not learning anything and they get a defeatist attitude of no matter what we do, we're going to lose. I go This doesnt make any sense, and now you have to battle me on something little, and you battled me on something else, and then you battle me on something else, that'll eventually you don't listen to me anymore. A secret cadre inside DEVGRU, Black Squadron are sniper and reconnaissance specialists who carry out advance force operations (AFO). 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So I feel like most of my life I'm eating Blue Apron or Blue Apron derived meals, and I'm totally cool with it. But what happens if I take that to the extreme, and now I start getting into the weeds with what theyre doing and I start stepping on toes and I start interfering with what theyre actually trying to get done? Absolute badasses. The list of countries that boast the highest total (active duty, reserves, and paramilitary) number of. If you disable this cookie, we will not be able to save your preferences. But the other boat crew, which had been losing one, and that's because they had a good leader in that situation. Your voice matters YOU are the focus for our team and how we move forward. Is Big Walt indestructible? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Do you remember that? And they'd think about it and they'd say, Oh yeah. And I'd say, Well what went wrong on that one? And they'd say, Oh well, nothing went wrong and we won. No one knows this better than Wrangler, the authority on jeans. And in the SEAL teams, we don't really care because we know that, if you've got a pair of boots that works really well for you and they fit your feet right and they breathe right and they're comfortable, that's cool. 1821 S Bascom Ave #174 By using the Website or any services provided in connection with the Website, you agree to abide by these Terms of Use, as they may be amended by Jordan Harbinger, LLC (Company) from time to time. I wanted to chronicle the phases of Battle so it plays like a story. And we're both asleep and clearly this was probably the first time we had to rest in 24 or 48 hours, so we put our heads down and sleep. So I got to see this. DISCOVERY AND APPEAL RIGHTS MAY ALSO BE LIMITED IN ARBITRATION. The other example in the book is that I told the guys that they had to know how to program their own radios themselves, which is something that it might not seem like a big deal, but in the SEAL teams, in a SEAL platoon, you've got a radio man and you just have him program your radio for you, and if it breaks you just give it too many fixes it or reprograms. We will communicate with you by email or by posting notices on the Website. And I coach you and I mentor and I invest in you, and when that doesn't work out, and especially, and this is another reason why we put this in the book, because if I take extreme ownership of things, and Jordan's not doing the right, I'm your leader and you're not doing the right thing, that's my fault and I need to do better, I need to train you better. Enlisted sailors entering the service at the lowest rank, E-1 (Seaman Recruit), receive $1,514 per month for the first four months of service and thereafter $1,638 per month. So checkout Glip. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING VETERAN JOURNALISM - JOIN SOFREP+ . He was enlisted with SEAL Team ONE and SEAL Team TWO. And what they were doing was, what they were doing was when they would leave the wire, when they would leave the gate to go on an operation, if I wasn't going on the operation with them, when they'd get outside the gate, they would have their patches with them and they'd get on the radio and make a call, patches on, And so they pull out their patches and put their cool guy task unit bruiser patches on, and that would've been fine and they would have gotten away with it, but they went on an operation where there was an embedded combat photographer and the embedded combat photographer took a bunch of pictures of them, and then sent me the pictures to have the pictures cleared. When I give you some push back, your mind is open. No, it's not a catastrophe, but we have our schedule constructed in such a way that we have some time off when the book comes out so that we can do some interviews when the book comes out and whatnot. That's probably why you're tuning in to this show. You've got always look, Okay, how can I improve? Jocko Willink: [01:06:38] And we had a lot of guys get wounded, we had guys get killed and the fact that more guys didn't get wounded and the fact that more guys didn't get killed. SEVERABILITY; WAIVER. SEAL Task Unit Bruiser commander Jocko Willink returns to the show to talk about his new book (co-authored with Leif Babin), The Dichotomy of Leadership: Balancing the Challenges of Extreme Ownership to Lead and Win. Pretty much any platform. Jocko Willink: [00:16:15] Well, you know you're doing everything yourself, and it's a problem when you're getting overwhelmed, when the ball starts getting dropped. A complete statement of Companys current privacy policy can be found by clicking the privacy link at the bottom of the page or otherwise located in the Websites navigation. Your email address will not be published. I can't even remember what it was called because it was so fantastically good that my mind was blown last week. The right to data portability: Ask us to provide your personal data we have for export. Morale Patch. They matched our uniforms, so it wasn't that big of a deal. By using Medium, you agree to our, U.S. Navy SEAL Team-3 Task Unit Bruiser, aka The Punishers - the most decorated and deadly outfit in the Iraq War during the Battle of Ramadi (2006). Jordan Harbinger: [00:30:45] It's like a big Lebowski quote embroider in herself. That's how you get people to take bold action eventually is you let them take small actions and when they take small actions, you praise them for it. Whenever I see skulls on uniforms Im reminded of the Are we the baddies sketch. And obviously when I saw the pictures I saw my guys wearing unauthorized patches. So, yes, the idea of extreme ownership is awesome, but there is a tendency for people to try to take things to the extreme.. This book has great stories that you can really feel. We love -- we've been using this stuff for years. Long before he dared anyone to make his Read More, If there is ever a time you need to be amazed by an individuals adventures, all you need to do Read More, Eric Prince, the brain behind the infamous private military company Blackwater, is now in China training security forces. Jordan Harbinger: [00:16:58] Yeah. I don't know if that's even possible. Jordan Harbinger: [01:14:43] Great big thank you to Jocko. One concept that I thought was super useful in a business world is that everyone has to lead, and we kind of touched on this earlier, but a team can be really hamstrung if the performance relies really on one or two leaders. For each year spent in service between 20 and 30 years, the percentage increases by 2.5% resulting in a 75% benefit for those members completing 30 years of service. I've put all the effort that I can as a leader where I'm now starting to take away from my other responsibilities. Can't argue with that. The right to rectification: Request we fix incorrect data about you. Jordan Harbinger: [00:23:44] Yeah, makes sense. And we're like, I don't know, scattered all over the place. And then the second one, we were all clumped together and they're like, Yeah, I just would have thrown a grenade in your general direction, you all would've died. Other famous veterans include actors such as Chuck Norris and Clint Eastwood, musicians such as Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash, and athletes such as Roger Staubach and Pat Tillman. And the funny thing is I'd have a task unit or I'd have a platoon that would say, We're not learning anything because we're just getting our asses kicked every single time. 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Related: This is the Iraq War documentary every veteran must see . WebFamous veterans have served in the military and achieved notable success or recognition in other fields. They went behind my back. So it seems like they should have fixed that by now. Leif and his SEALs of Jordan Harbinger: [00:49:30] So this decentralized command where everyone has to lead. The ship I was on happened to be in the Port of San Diego California when the Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Zumwalt held a open meeting for the Jocko Willink: [00:58:16] Doing a bad thing as a leader. You have the right to control your personal data. DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT; COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. The Army and the Marine Corps absolutely judge people on how they look, And that makes sense because if you can't put on a uniform, if you can't complete this simple task of putting on a uniform correctly, how can I expect you to operate effectively out on the battlefield? Jocko Willink: [00:47:21] It's so obvious. 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Regardless of their specific experiences, all famous veterans have significantly contributed to their country and the world. So it's paintball murder, but everyone gets murdered by the opposing force, which is actually other SEALs that are dressed up like bad guys. Watch a clip from the London Real interview with Navy SEAL veteran Jocko Willink below. It's going to actually impact my guys a little bit and they might give me a little push back, but you know what I'm going to do? We have the right, but not the obligation, to review and remove any activity or content involving you or your account. WebAnswer (1 of 7): Many actually can't stand him. A lot of people go, Oh, I don't need to network right now or I'll do that in a bit. And thats a really positive thing. And it's generally it's someone that can't make decisions under pressure situations. And it wasn't a long period of time, it was a couple operations where I said, I'm going to, I'm going to plan this, I'm going to plan this, I'm goanna plan this. And I kind of held onto it all, and my guys were sort of doing what I told them to do, which is great because they're great guys. And the example in the book is Big Walt, super effective leader. I'm going to do it. If a person has a bad attitude, yeah, they're done. The right to erasure: Request we erase certain data about you. WebJocko Podcast 42 - 00:00:00 - 00:03:13Full List of Books from the Jocko Podcast:http://peoplegettingafterit.com/complete-list-of-books-from-jocko-podcast/ The arbitration may be conducted in person, through the submission of documents, by phone, or online and shall be conducted by a qualified American Arbitration Association (AAA) arbitrator. I'm really busy these days. The problem with that mindset is that you cannot make up for lost time when it comes to relationships. 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