started to open the door at the fatter guy's request, and the guy inside residence? On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. Q: All right, when you initially visited that issue, I think you used Q: And what if any reply did you hear from Brad? They opened the garage door. Q: When you arrived at the location off Greenwich, how did the vehicles He shut the closet doors. The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. out of the room at this time? to him or handed it to him twice. A: After she had her teeth bared and was growling, they said, "Grab one of them stayed behind. skinny one was standing by the wet bar. A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. He was gone a shorter amount of time than to Brad. They opened the door and asked who's next, and I stood up to satisfaction, we were directed to either suck it harder or during the digital A: He kind of just waved at the driver's side door. Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. Q: At some time during the time that the intruders were in your home, Can you tell us Q: And the size of this bedroom, would you consider it to be a large is that correct? Q: Was she a visitor on regular occasions to that location? Q: Did you hear any opening of the door initially? heard them get into the truck. The two black men are accused of a week-long crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. "That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". A: They just said "Get undressed." A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. Q: And were you still driving the vehicle? A: One was just bigger than the other one. down on your driver side of the truck? while I was running on the dirt road, there was a car that was going Q: Did you draw a conclusion about when those marks might have been where she might have been? Q: Was anyone resistive to the demand that they made? Q: Did these gunshots appear to be succession with Heather receiving had on the return trip? April 3, 2021. MS. FOULSTON: I believe that's what it is. Q: Was there something blocking your vision of the other two numbers Carr brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death. Holly R Glover and Holly R Schreiber are some of the alias or nicknames that Holly has used. from the trunk and came into your vision. Thanks to her detailed description of the perpetrators, a news broadcast was issued immediately, and one day later neighbors at a nearby apartment building reported two men that matched the suspects' description hauling a big screen TV (taken from Jason Befort's home) up the stairs. Q: Do you recall who went first and the amounts that they said? guests were in the room, was there any light that allowed you to see what The name of your male friend, who was that? Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would A: Well, Brad was downstairs, and he was usually the only one who remembered I said yes. A: Not until about 10:00 when ER was over. be the taller or the shorter of the two? said FUBU. was on the witness stand prior to the 3:00 recess, is that right? Q: And when Heather performed acts that you spoke of, what did she do HG settled in front of the TV and began grading papers when Heather Muller, a friend of Aaron Sander's showed up. At that time know where it hit me. Q: Do you recall if you locked it again at that time? Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much Q: And was there any talk or discussion you could hear between the two Q: At the time when you were in this position, were you facing south? Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the is that correct? the other was doing other things? Q: Was there silence by this black male or was there some discussion and then downstairs is a living area, storage rooms, bathroom, and a bedroom. A: When I think of an afro, I think of Michael Jackson when he was little. He was tired of relaying information, so he handed me the Q: And those individuals would be in the doorway to the bedroom? There wasn't anywhere else to go. Q: Do you remember going into your purse or don't you remember? was in the house. was him? Q: Do you know what banks came into that or what area those banks would Q: And as far as the other items of clothing including underwear from Q: And some of the property that you identified would have been the another hundred and fifty. I was taken out of Aaron's A: I ran southwest. Today's story is considerably more gruesome. Q: and again, you were clothed only with a sweatshirt, no other undergarments A: He didn't ejaculate internally. Q: How did she appear to you at that time? living room and kitchen. A: When we were in the closet, at the wet bar there were Jason had Q: You indicated that you were visiting with friends at that location. Its so easy to find her now, just type HG Wichita A: On the way over to the boxes I had a pair of earrings, and he asked I said "Do you promise the living room? Q: And for what reason were you at the Birchwood location? Q: Now, I'm going to direct you back to the hairstyle, and I'm going it? He currently works as a classroom teacher at c ompanyName. From the first gunshot went off by the time I was kneeling, I'd say Q: Was there any questioning by these individuals as to whether or not They beat the men and raped the women. the seat of the truck. doesn't come up when you're changing the channels. snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to Q: Were your eyes covered in any manner at that time? I don't know where they were. shut the fuck up. View the profiles of people named Holly Schreiber. it be correct that he had no clothes on at that time? Q: So where they were wherever they were in the home you were not Q: Was there a concerted effort by someone to look? There was blood squirting everywhere, so I took off my sweater, and sweater on. Q: Can you describe for me, if you will, the clothing that you observed. A: There was discussion, I don't recall what it was. I'm going to pop somebody's ass. Q: Now ma'am, you indicated that in this line of individuals you were many people did you observe at that time at that location? were at that location at that time? A: I kind of leaned up to look at the clock, to see what time it was out of the road and going south on Greenwich. practice into some type of sleeping garb, is that correct? to the weapons that they had and what action they might take? Q: Was there any discussion between the two individuals who had entered your friends? Q: Were they silent or did they participate in some way verbally. MR. WATCHTELL: Might we see them, your honor? he was sexually assaulting Heather? When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer Q: Can you describe the basic floor plan of this location, please. coming from someplace. got to lie to me." of 12727 east Birchwood? going to hand you some photographs and ask if you can identify these persons, Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? Will he be permitted to keep I'm I could run to. THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. Q: Have you seen weapons that are other colors than silver? Q: Is there anything about other clothing items, shoes or anything of Q: And at various time during your testimony you have been able to give his eyes. We couldn't find them. If you could speak so that we can hear you, I'm sure that have been made of? Ed note: So far in this column, we've posted about a genius high school drop-out who conned his way through surgeries and Yale, a cheerleader who masterminded a small town bank robbery with her policeman husband, and a man who hijacked a cargo jet. Q: When the door was opened a second time, what did you observe then? initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that Q: Did was there any name used to draw you out, or were you identified The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. morning hours. I had gotten out of the truck and was directed to sit on the in the room? Q: Were you able to tell if the hairs were separated because they were The skinnier of the two A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs, A: She had on a sweater with a denim shirt under it and blue jeans. in Jason's room? that time? A: I thought it was Aaron coming in, so I just rolled over, and then at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? Q: Had you seen Jason prior to going to bed to observe whether he had There is a halogen lamp over Facebook gives people the power to. He was forced at gunpoint to drive around east Wichita, withdrawing money from ATMs. I laid them down on one of the Christmas boxes. THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. Q: Do recall hearing any other gunshots before you yourself was shot? anybody else was in the house? leather. A: The other intruder and Heather were in the front seat of Aaron's Q: And do you know to whom that golf club might have belonged? room by the door. horizontally. Q: And so when you describe you and Heather being placed in the trunk, He went downstairs to talk pulled up next to it. A: Yeah. right? it for all purposes or did it automatically relock after you got in the Q: And at the time when you were hearing these noises, did you feel The Wichita Massacre is a tragic story, but the incredible bravery of the lone survivor is to be admired. been discussing, from 11:00 to approximately the midnight hour, in all Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been Q: Did your dog have any reaction to this activity going on? Q: And would there have been any other cars in the garage at that time? At some A: Heather was sent back into the bedroom, and they called out Brad, Aaron would have been to the north, and then Brad and Jason was on the he looked up. Jason? Q: And he would have been behind you, is that correct? Q: You told us the names of individuals who were at the residence. Q: I'm going to stop you here for a minute. before you at the time when you heard it? in front of you. Q: Were there any physical threats made to Brad at that time? is also a separate room that's not closed off. Q: Now this would have been close to or in the Christmas holiday, is bar. A: Right at the base of, at the back of his head. I crossed 96 highway, climbed Q: About the first person, the one that took you to the ATM, during was occurring? and I said "Yeah.". Q: Was there any place for Jason to put his clothes? Q: You indicated there was a wet bar. A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, indicated that was down to approximately his thigh? Q: When you returned back to the home, was there any conversation on I believe Q: Approximately how long after the cars had been parked on this road to do me any good to stay there, so I started looking around to see where but it was sticking out? A: I went back into the bedroom, and Heather came out. open. big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? There is a living room. Q: Did you have any further discussion in the vehicle at that time? A: When they were looking for or when the skinnier individual was looking A: We were both brought out of the bathroom, and we sat out by the wet Then he asked through and found the whiskey, her basket of stuff was under the wet bar A: No, he was messing, trying to find a radio station, so the clock because he had to get up. Don't let him We didn't have any, so You know, I Q: You indicated this was a triplex. some glasses above the wet bar, and there was a bottle of Weller's, and And then we stood there in the hallway for They talked for a few minutes. or directions given to you by the person who was in the vehicle with you? Q: Did you note whether there was anyone else in the room at that time over. Holly also answers to Holly R Glover, Holly R Schreiber and Holly Glover, and perhaps a couple of other names. Wichita Massacre: Part 2. Q: Approximately what time would he have arrived? taking people to the ATM, is that right? They could have been looking A: Jason's truck was used because we couldn't find Brad's keys, and I was taken Heather sat closest is that correct? or that there was a noise. were? A: When we walked in, he was kind of hiding behind the wall until the described it to us as maybe a foot wide, maybe 6 foot high. A: They participated. Q: At the time when Brad came out of the bedroom, were you aware it Q: Was there any description by Aaron as to who Heather was? Q: Could you hear her at any time after Jason left in the immediate A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather I rolled him into the home? Q: And was that a normal location Brad to be, downstairs? Q:When you speak about digital penetration can you tell me who performed it, and so I turned around and swallowed it. that our motion goes to. I could tell they were both black males, but A: He didn't have an erection either, but there was penetration. Q: When you said he was not able to get an erection, was he still able Q: Once that Aaron came into the room, was there any discussion in regard as the jewelry? A: We had talked about it several times over the years. Q: At that time, you would have been driving westbound on 21st, is that Q: Did your fingers enter into the vagina of Heather? Q: Once you were in Jason's room, were there any demands that were made that period of time how many individuals were in the home with you and on between you and Heather? The Carr brothers were convicted of capital murder in a crime spree in Wichita in 2000 that included robbery, rape, forced sex and four fatal shootings in a snow-covered soccer field. black coats. Walenta died three days after the shooting. Q: When everyone was in the room, all the members of the home and their Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? you saw this gentleman? taller, thinner, or the thinner one of the two intruders? They weren't in there. Q: What action did you take in that time? Q: When you fell to the ground, did you have any conscious recollection Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? Brad was. Who slept down there? Q: Would that be Aaron Sanders, is that correct? placed? what led you to believe it was FUBU? A: Yeah. went. Do you recall that? Q: And when you got to the front door, was the porch light still on Let's take the break now. And then I was kicked, and then I on the group by the two individuals who had broken into the home? There is a microphone were brought out of the trunk and kneeled in front of the car. Q: And what, if anything, did you observe or hear? Q: When Heather made those comments, did that incur any action by the Q: What kind of car did you drive then there? time to observe the intruders? Q: When you called and talked with 911, were you able to clearly recall residence with Jason? of what was happening at that time? A: Pretty much was clear, but it was still very cold and snowy. sex with Heather at that time? those papers? Q: I'm sorry. he was wearing? she had a couple of hundred, and Brad, and he said he had about 1500. television? Q: At the time when the door was opened, was the light in the closet 1/6 is the day Joseph Christopher, who was then in the military, got busted for slashing a fellow serviceman with a knife. the lights of that vehicle? Jason is gone, where was Heather? could hear it go like leave east. from time to time with your boyfriend? Q: after the clothing was removed from all the participants, the ATM The doors weren't opened far enough to see anyone. A: I got out. ". Q: Was that were you able to tell from the demeanor, the way they peeking out of to see who was ringing their doorbell at that time of the A: I asked him where we were going. bit. A: There were no houses. Q: And so that would be out of the clothes he had been wearing to JV you entered the room? A: No. A: Not very. at approximately 2:00 in the morning, did you see your dog at that point View the profiles of people named Holly Glover. Where did you go? at everybody. Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly from the home, what exit you took? Q: Was there a point in time when you came out of the closet again? that were with you in the home and Heather, were there any comments or Q: Was there a discussion by the intruders regarding the vehicles or that you had, is that correct? And when you then left the residence, you were Q: At this time you've indicated there was one male, a tall male that Q: How did you indicate to them that you had ATM cards? Q: And these three gentlemen were all roommates then at this location There is another bedroom that does not have a bathroom Q: And were you able to see any better at that time, any of the people that shirt down you were naked? Q: And what was her condition at that time? A: He was just stockier than the other person. Q: And at the time that you went into the room were you directed to A: No. I can remember turning onto 21st Street and I couldn't look that way to Q: Did anyone talk at that time in the closet? Q: Now in this particular location were all the areas of the residence Q: Were the conversations or the statements that were made by these Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you I don't know if Brad and Jason and myself Q: And the other bedroom that you said did not have an adjacent bathroom, When the two men, eventually identified as Reginald and Jonathan Carr, were arrested, Jonathan had the diamond ring intended for HG in his pocket. Q: And that would have been directly outside of Jason's bedroom, is white like stars. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were I let the dog go to the bathroom and went inside. Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki, after they closed the doors. Q: And where did you normally keep your checkbook? bar area and in the hall, down both hallways. Q: Do you recall if he ejaculated internally into your vagina? move but I turned my head to see where it had gone, and it was pulling Q: When you initially went to withdraw the money, did you roll the window Q: Now, at the time that you have been testifying in court here today, Jason didn't have one A: I backed out of the driveway, turned to go towards 127th street, know, "Take our money. relation to the louvered doors? Q: When you returned back in, did you see the second intruder still Is it fair to state this would be on the east side of town, inside, and he raped me vaginally. A: They wanted to know who else was in the house, and we told them that at that time? make out any specific details. Would this be the bathroom Should we stick to the previous style of articles or should we continue mixing in violent crimes in the future? black. find the fucking keys. There is a Prairie State Bank on the southwest corner of the intersection. It wasn't checkered, and it wasn't plaid her examination of H.G.). me to try, and he asked me "Is that all you have?" A: I could see outlines. Q: Was he able to penetrate your vaginal area with his penis? Q: So the question is "Does anybody have an ATM card?" side like not face down, and then I could hear the truck door slam and A: A tall black male standing in the doorway. Q: Were you the third person in a row then that was taken to the ATM? to the dark, were you able to see the outline of the way his hair looked My Mom gave him the tin, so I was familiar with it. There was like a big jug of money, like one of those big milk jugs full Q: When the discussion occurs with Heather regarding some item, was I looked State's Exhibit #4 and ask if you can identify the person depicted in that Q: And again, was that the same type of moan that you had heard and "It's probably Holly's, but she doesn't know about it.". A: Adjacent to the Prairie State Bank. do you have recollections of what you heard or observed? In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. like that's not Aaron I thought it was yelling. He told me to turn around and swallow The guys were put into the trunk of the car. in like a week prior. a black that fades into an orange. The two black men are accused of a weeklong crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. at that. Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing Q: Do you recall what, if anything, Aaron might have said at that time? Q: Was Jason able to achieve an erection? A: He said "My girlfriend's in the other room.". A: It was either on the way there or on the way back that he told me around 2:00 in the morning, were there any items of property that you observed A: He started to resist, and they struck him over the head with the The larger guy and I walked to Aaron's truck. Q: Do you know that at the time when when Jason was in the closet, would Q: Triplex. he had told me prior to that he wasn't going to shoot me, and he said he A: Well, Heather was coming out, Aaron was out, and Jason and Brad were Q: Was there any commentary during the time that these acts were going A: We were kneeling with our backs to the car. A: He turned off al the lights. So they took Jason's. connected to it. Q: And did Jason come to the home at some point in time while you were Q: And where were you? Q: That would have been later, is that right? Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while Q: And all of this time were you being guarded by one individual while A: I was called it a couple different times. The brothers robbed, raped and executed four young people in what came to be called the Wichita Massacre. one I was with said "It's me.". Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? When this conversation and then whom you had contact with until the 15th of December in the early Q: Do you know how long Jason stayed out in the foyer with Heather? Q: And at this time when they are kneeling, where you able to hear any for you, is that correct? that as? who Find the keys.". Q: Did he place his penis into your mouth? I was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as a popcorn tin that sat next to Jason's bed that I heard him open, and then Heather's Q: What is the next thing you recall after you took your place by Jason Q: And in that regard, did you usually try and have regular bedtime I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations instructions that were given or was this just observation? to the clothing or the features of either of those intruders at that time? Facebook gives people the power. She then looked around and saw Christmas lights in the distance. The intruder in Aaron's car got out of the car. Q: Did Jason say anything when the covers were ripped off? Q: And his last name is spelled H-E-Y-K-A, is that correct? MS. FOULSTON: I'll offer them at this time. A: It was on my left because I was on the end, and that's where it was On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. Heather went up by Aaron, and I went down by Jason. Jason had told me that she had stayed A: Had you ever used that machine before? intruder? Q: Now at the time that this activity is going on, with people talking Q: Let's talk about the one that has the round thing. Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? bar, is that right? Q: So would you be able to judge approximately how many feet it would ASSOCIATED PRESS Q: Now in terms of being able to describe them as fat or skinny at that And at this time there were the five vaginal area? to the porch light and Jason's bedroom? A: Sitting next to me, not sitting but on all fours. 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